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Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« on: November 18, 2011, 08:51:39 AM »

Proposed UCI classes for womens cruiser:
- under 16
- 17 to 29
- 30+

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/British-Girls-against-UCI-BMX-Class-changes-for-2012-World-Championships/177781848979121
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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2011, 01:03:05 PM »

Part of the slowly evolving UCI effort to totally remove Cruisers from the Worlds schedule?

Will contribute to the slow death of the sport as it filters down to National Champs, States etc and slowly removes parental participation from the sport at all levels.  No parental participation = less volunteers etc.

Dumb as dog%#*^ in my view.

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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2011, 04:13:18 PM »

Are theses classes to be confirmed?

Such a shame for women who enjoy racing cruiser, especially 40+ who will no doubt be disadvantaged! Does this mean more challenge classes will be open for women or just 17+?
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2011, 10:04:03 PM »

I do not know why the rank and file BMX dont remove UCI from the program, BMXA got into bed with them and what does the normal bmx family get, trying to turn it into an elitist sport with UCI rounds etc etc of course for a BMX Olympic spot, someone work out the odds of all licenced BMX riders chance per spot to get onto an Olympic team. Sure we all have dreams but i dont know why we dont demand they cater for people who enjoy the sport, promote and grow the sport here as they pay noms for things like world championships. If they get younger riders for worlds will the noms rise due to lack of older numbers. If your over 40 and racing BMX and want to travel to events keep going. UCI want to trim events and no one raises a noise. Time to take back BMX i reckon.
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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 08:30:48 AM »

Are theses classes to be confirmed?

Hey Jaclyn...nice work in AA Women yesterday...

There was a thread on this subject on a GB BMX forum.....before it was deleted.

One of the posts stated they had contacted Ellen Bollansée, UCI BMX Coordinator, and was told that the rule change was 99% complete.

Female cruiser classes were well supported in 2009 Worlds in Adelaide:
U12 = 32
13-14 = 18
15-16 = 23
17-24 = 24
25-29 = 9
30-34 = 10
35-39 = 10
40-44 = 13
45+ = 13

These numbers support:
- junior classes
- 30-39
- 40+

Unfortunately in 2010 and 2011 all classes were small.


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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 08:35:08 AM »

Does this mean more challenge classes will be open for women or just 17+?

You mean will there be more older 20 inch female classes rather than:
- Jr. and Snr Elite
- 17+ Challenge

Doubt it, try email Ellen Bollansée at UCI.


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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 05:40:11 AM »

Unfortunately in 2010 and 2011 all classes were small.
Adelaide would have had a good turn out boosted by the "local" population of Aus and NZ perhaps? How strong is women's BMX in China and Denmark?

The cost of getting to these events has to factor in. Even when we take it really seriously its a huge step to throw your bike on a plane and tackle travel, language, culture and cost. That's money taken that we spend on ourselves and not our families.

You have to look at demographics too. Sports participation by women in their 40s is growing across the board in developed countries. When I was a kid the only sport my mother's friends played was golf. Today my friends in their 40s are doing competitive triathlon, road cycling, and running. We're a lot more active and BMX will gain from that change as well. At my club we've got maybe 3 new senior male riders this season and 1 female and nobody has left the sport. Not huge numbers but multiply it out across all the clubs in all the countries and the pool of talent is growing.

And finally... if a 5 year old can be a world champion why can't a 40 year old?
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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2011, 08:16:40 AM »

BMXA take head.
If you follow what the UCI have done, and adopt this into the Ausse and state tiles, you will have a back lash.
Not only from those women in the sport but from the men in the sport also.
Don't kick the local family riders in the teeth.
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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2011, 09:06:45 AM »


2011 Womens Cruiser class entries were poor:

25-29 = 5 entries
30-34 = 6 entries
35-39 = 5 entries
40-44 = 6 entries
45+    = 3 entries

(Last two classes were combined....)

This resulted in 4 or 5 rider finals for 3 classes.....(one rider dropped)

I support equal classes for both male and female....
What UCI should do is increase the minimum class size from 5 riders  to 10 riders.

Then there will be a full gate of 8 for finals....

Where there are sufficient numbers riders race there own age.....if not combine.



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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 12:16:05 PM »

2011 Womens Cruiser class entries were poor:
Was this due to the GFC, the host country or lack of interest by eligible riders?
Numbers are data, its the interpretation that matters and they have to be taken in context.

What UCI should do is increase the minimum class size from 5 riders  to 10 riders.

Where there are sufficient numbers riders race there own age.....if not combine.
I don't think you'd have any problem passing amalgamation rules, even on a number as high as 10 so long as the class was available. that then spurs the riders on to encourage other riders in their club/region/country to join them. Just think, if those 9 women in 40+ had brought a buddy that would be 18. Given the incentive of non=amalgamation we will fight to have greater participation.
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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2011, 01:30:31 PM »

Was this due to the GFC, the host country or lack of interest by eligible riders?
Numbers are data, its the interpretation that matters and they have to be taken in context.

2011 entries in 25+ Womens Cruiser Classes
AUS   2
GBR   4
NED   5
FRA   2
GER   2
SWE   4
USA   3
OTHER   2 (1 SUI, 1 BEL)
TOTAL     18

2009 entries in 25+ Womens Cruiser Classes
AUS   38
NZL   8
USA   7
CAN   1
RSA   1
OTHER   6 (all Euros)
TOTAL   61




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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2011, 04:16:50 PM »

If you split those numbers out in both 2009 and 2011 approximately 75% of the riders came from the region (Australasia or Europe respectively).

Questions that need to be asked about why there was a poor turnout in Copenhagen

  • Fewer women riding in Europe compared to Australasia?
  • No host country riders entered despite a generous host country quota
  • Australia is a more attractive destination than Denmark (extend the trip with tourism)?
  • The global financial crisis meant spending a large amount of money on a sports trip wasn't appropriate

I don't know how its viewed in other countries but down here, we're thrilled that we're getting to host the Worlds and at a club level there is a huge buzz about being able to ride.

Makes me wonder why those 2011 figures don't include Danish women? If women don't ride in the host country then you have a numbers problem from the get-go. That's no reason to penalise us in future competitions.
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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2011, 11:52:11 AM »



GB run a national series:

Number if entries upto Round 7:

Ladies Cruiser 30+ = 11 Riders

http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/bmx/article/bmx20110717-National-BMX-Series-Round-7-0


This includes W2 30-34 Women Kim Bent....who started the FB page


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Re: Womens Cruiser Classes from 2012
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 04:04:43 PM »


BMXA Nationals entry form:

"Please note UCI Categories are subject to change. If there are any changes, BMXA will notify the riders effected immediately."

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