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age noms vs pro noms in sth qld
« on: June 30, 2012, 11:17:53 AM »

why is it that it costs $20 for age and cruiser noms with approx. $100 prize pool per class, and only $25 pro noms with around $1000 prize pool in south qld. seems like we are all getting the short end of the stick to prop up the prize pool for "pro". if you want to ride pro, shouldnt you pay more for noms Huh??
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 04:22:03 PM »

Pros do pay more.

It's far harder to get a good placing in open than age/novice class.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 05:19:52 PM »

Pro woman are the ones that get shafted in the money breakdown most times paying same entrie fee as pro men
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2012, 08:05:16 PM »

well mr.formula[if thats your real name]. ;Dwhy isnt bmx qld chasing more sponsorship is my question.seems to be up to each club to chase sponsorship,which is hard work i might add.why dont we have a state wide sponsor?they could kick in a bit extra for prize money.
if we bring home some medals from the olympics,hopefully then will we see some money being thrown around.we need it!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 08:27:29 PM »

hey smiley, i totally agree, as for you jungle fever, if there is 30- pro riders or 30- 11 boys, arent the odds the same to make the final, and i am sure each class is trying there hardest to make the final. bigkid- i asked why age and cruiser noms are only $5 cheaper than pro noms but with only 1/10th of the return in prize pool, what are you talking about, its got nothing to do with australia winning medals at the olympics, or bmxq having a state sponsor. why dont sth qld clubs charge $15 noms for age and cruiser and $35 for pro noms.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 09:07:23 PM »

I'm with you smiley.  The girls lose out the most when they pay the same nom as men....
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 09:44:51 PM »

Rockhampton Open Day $600 prize pool for men and $600 for the ladies. Noms on BMXQ website. Bring your daughter up to race Smiley.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 10:09:31 AM »

sorry mr.formula....what i was trying to say was the sponsors could 'kick in' the extra bit for prize money for the pros and not take it out of the age and cruiser money and yes the pros should pay more,agreed on that one.
winning medals would mean more recognition for the sport.
and yes the ladies do need more prize money.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 11:48:33 AM »

I agree with Formula. It needs to be sorted out, esp the pro Women prize pool when entries are the same as pro Men!
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2012, 02:04:55 PM »

I will through one out there, I feel that pro women should have the same prize pool as the men if they can get a field. Most open days there are lucky to be 5 so why should they have the same when they haven’t the riders to support the prize money, may be there prize pool should be based on noms.  come on shoot me down
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Re: age noms vs pro noms in sth qld
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2012, 02:25:01 PM »

.....may be there prise pool should be based on noms

ARA Appendix 1 gives guidance on equity for prize money schedule based on the ratio of male : female riders.


The riders I feel for in Vic are A Pro........they have 30+ riders (compared to typically 12 AA men) but get 40% of the AA prize pool.......

A men make a profit in Vic........AA men run at a loss (I've got no problem with that).

Offeriing a min prize pool + payback would be more equitible (but not as glamorous)
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2012, 02:38:46 PM »

I agree with Formula. It needs to be sorted out, esp the pro Women prize pool when entries are the same as pro Men!
I'm not so sure about this ... every event I have been to in South Qld lately entrants seem to run at 30 to 40 for Pro Men and Pro Women are lucky to have a full gate.

I think that no matter how you look at it someones always going to get the short end of the stick.  
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2012, 03:59:50 PM »

                      Shocked IS IT GREED !  Tongue

I was talking with my son the other day, and the subject turned to PRO'S. He asked the question "Why are PRO'S so greedy nowadays?" The answer is, of course, that PRO'S in general are no more greedy, violent, generous, or kind now than they were 10, 15, 20, or 40 years ago. They make decisions and respond to incentives the same way they always have. The technologies and the institutions with which they can do their good or bad, however, certainly have changed over time. The ups and downs of BMX had much more to do with the laws and political institutions (BMXA) which affected the incentives for the PRO'S to be productive and responsible than with changes in the nature of the PRO'S themselves.

Shocked Say No To Yellow # PL8'S  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2012, 05:09:26 PM »

if the prize money was there for the women you would probably get more than one gate otherwise at sum events you are better off riding age because most of the times if they get third they dont even get their noms back and just saying no we are not in it for the money otherwise we wouldnt be in the sport !!!and the_merkin8r this is jo (maddies mum )writing this bit what gives you the right to call my daughter greedy and violent wtf
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2012, 06:20:37 PM »

and the_merkin8r this is jo (maddies mum )writing this bit what gives you the right to call my daughter greedy and violent wtf

Huh Where did i sat that , I was just fishing !  Grin
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