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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2012, 05:30:54 PM »

Not to upset anyone but I have a question:

JMCGT has mentioned "and my 9 year old races everyone in cruiser.." so say he was a small 9yr old and weighed 25kg and he races me at 114kg- is there not a duty of care issue here?


Yes it is a duty of care as is at what age can a rider start racing? I have seen personally what happens when an adult crashes with a young boy. That boy was my son and as president of a club no boys under 15 will race against men anymore. It is simply irresponsible on the organisers behalf. If there is simply not enough to constitute a class it doesn't mean they can't race it just means no prizes will be given. Kids want to race and if they only want to race for prizes then they are doing it for the wrong reasons. If it was my 9yr old I would remove them from the race and place a complaint with the governing body. Commonsense should prevail and the officals should not let it get to that but obviously it has in this case. Question? Do they let heavyweight boxers fight flyweights boxers? Answer NO.
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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2012, 06:03:56 PM »

In all honesty I did not contemplate a parent entering a child in men's cruiser. There is no Jnr  cruiser class offered its that simple. So if you have entered your child in men's cruiser,again ,do you complain on a public forum, or contact organisers with a legitimate enquiry ? Huh?? My email is listed earlier, it is on the flyer as is my phone number. As far as these comments they belong in trash talk as that is what they are. I'm glad that what I read on here is not typical of the Bmx community or I'd leave. Look forward to real correspondence .

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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2012, 06:59:06 PM »

I'm sorry I simply cannot believe you would not offer JNR Cruiser of some sort. As I said before even if there is only 2 riders LET THEM RIDE. It doesn't take alot of effort. Officals and board members should take notice of forums etc to see how the community feels. This is a reflection of current times. I myself am a club president and a committee member of a State body and forums are a great way to find information and get ideas as well as understanding members needs. If you are still in the age of formal emails etc you may be way behind. I am not speaking necessarily of you Bk but plenty of emails and complaints get miss placed with boards and committees as they sometimes fit in the too hard basket or are dealt with by people who no longer have an attachment to the sport with either a child or as a rider thus miss the point of the complaint. Unfortunately for you the people on here are the BMX community and thanks to forums like this Joe Average can express his views.
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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2012, 08:42:57 PM »

Looks like you are taking it the wrong way Bryan, this is not a personal attack on a club , official ect ...
Just trying to open up some opinions on how to better our sporting events..

I wanted to enter two more classes but not to be, they are not there..
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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2012, 07:55:49 AM »

so all the people who are not raceing becouse of the transponder cost that  whinge on this forum will be officials for this race so riders wont have to put up with the rude offficials . why dont people budget for the cost of transponders they have been for sale for a long time you could have bought 1 every 6 months . as for  duty of care issue bmx is dangerous so if you are that concerned and thinking of suing a club if your kid gets hurt stay home
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2012, 08:13:15 AM »

Who said anything about suing. Duty of care is just that...CARE. Kids want to ride their bikes but to ride with blokes who weight 4x them Angry. Parents shouldn't be put into that situation. When my son was hurt I wasn't thinking of suing anyone I thought as a president of a club to was my responsibility to prevent that from happening again. Budget all you want but if you don't have the money you just dont have the money. Governing bodies and committees are there to grow the sport and represent the members who by all accounts are beginning to struggle with the financial burdens.
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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2012, 10:02:26 AM »

Stay Focused Bk, you are doing a great job!!!!
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2012, 10:38:59 AM »

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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2012, 12:59:41 PM »

Some officials need to stay at home, I think they know who they are.  Its the love of riding that keeps me in this sport, I just want to ask what is there reason?

PS. I dont care how that comes across, I'm a paying member,  suck it up.

Officials are volunteers.
FYI the definition of volunteer is:
"A person who performs or offers to perform a service voluntarily (no pay)"

Volunteering is an altruistic activity; and the backbone of providing facilities and event for the BMX community.

Or, the opposite of the attitude you convey in your post...

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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2012, 01:19:40 PM »

....there were 3 Jnr riders last time....last I checked 5 constitutes a class.

Check again Brian,

ARA rules:
- Nationals (class 6) min = 5
- State Open (class 7) min = 3     [Shep event]

However, rules disclosed in an event flier (as approved by the SOD) supercede ARA guidelines.

Both Shep and Park Orchards have used 5 resulting in classes of very broad age ranges (even when more classes are offered).

Looking at entries...with a min of 5 you'll have to
- merge Womens cruiser with mens cruiser (even though there are 3 women)...
- combine lots of girls classses (even though 8, 9, 10, 11 and  12 girls entry meet or exceed ARA guidlelines to have their own separate classes)
- cancel Vet Pro as there are 4 riders
- cancel AA Men as there are 4 riders


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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2012, 02:49:16 PM »

Officals and board members should take notice of forums etc to see how the community feels.

Some contribute (too much)..... Wink
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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2012, 06:51:26 PM »

Some officials need to stay at home, I think they know who they are.  Its the love of riding that keeps me in this sport, I just want to ask what is there reason?

PS. I dont care how that comes across, I'm a paying member,  suck it up.

Officials are volunteers.
FYI the definition of volunteer is:
"A person who performs or offers to perform a service voluntarily (no pay)"

Volunteering is an altruistic activity; and the backbone of providing facilities and event for the BMX community.

Or, the opposite of the attitude you convey in your post...

 Wink

Glad you find your dictionary handy.  Most volunteers are ok, but some should stay away from me.  If your confused by anything, read it again or accept it.  Either way doesnt bother me.
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Re: Drought Broken!!!!!!!
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2012, 09:39:02 AM »

didnt a lot of the pro riders say they dont race for the money  . and maybe it proves you dont need the pro riders to have a great race meeting .  maybe next time shep should not offer a  AA race 
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